Please note that this post is the second half of the post titled “The Fear Of Satan: Giving Undue Power To The Adversary” which is a part of “A Feaful Bride” series. Read the “first half” to follow the conversation better.
Query one: Satan entered the snake in the garden of Eden and used the snake to deceive Eve.
Response one: Scripture says that “…the serpent (itself) was more subtle/cunning than any of the beasts of the field…”, not that “…Satan entered the serpent and made it more cunning than any of the beasts of the field”. This is further emphasized in Revelation 12:9 where the “great dragon” is also called “the old serpent, Satan, and the Devil”. Satan himself was the serpent in the garden.
[The garden of Eden will be addressed in another post].
Query two: Satan used to be an Angel of Light in some distant past and the book of Revelation (12:9) describes how he was cast down from heaven down to earth.
Response two: None of the things mentioned in the book of revelation (from Chapter 4 upwards; to make it less ambiguous) had happened as at the time John received the revelation. John received insight of things that would happen, not things that had happened.This is clear in Revelation 1:1,3.
“The Revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave him so that his servants might have knowledge of the things which will quickly take place: and he sent and made it clear by his angel to his servant John; ” (BBE)…
“Blessed is he who reads, and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and who keep the things written in it, for the time is near (ACV)…
The same is written in Revelation 22:6.
Therefore, it is incorrect to describe the occurrence mentioned in Revelation 12:9 as a past event as at the time John received the revelation. In addition, these scripture portions cannot be used to justify the claim that Satan was once an angel of light.
Query three: It was when Jesus said that He saw Satan falling from heaven (Luke 10:18) that Satan was actually cast down from heaven and this is again repeated in Revelation 12:9.
Response three: As stated in response two, what the book of Revelation records had not happened in the history of existence as at the time John received it. Lord Jesus was referring to a different fall of the kingdom of darkness (please read Luke 10:1-22).
Query four: The occurrence narrated in Revelation 12:9 shows how Satan got into the garden of Eden. When he was cast down from heaven, he went to Eden and deceived man.
Response four: Satan is seen gathering with the Sons of God (in heaven) in the book of Job. Job lived after the fall of man in Eden. Was he (Satan) readmitted to heaven or was he cast down multiple times? In addition, as in response two, the book of Revelation relates to events yet to happen as at the time John received the revelation.
Query five: Satan used to be an angel of light, Isaiah 14:12 tells us so.
Response five: Please read the whole chapter carefully. God sent a message through the prophet Isaiah to tell how the king of Babylon would be shamefully overthrown. At this time, Babylon was still the most powerful nation on earth and Judah was in captivity in Babylon.
Part of the message was that when Babylon had been overthrown, a song will be sung about the king’s downfall (Isaiah 12:3-4). The song mentioned that the king of Babylon was cast down from heaven because of his pride. Remember King Nebudchadnezzer and how God humbled in from his pride as an example. ‘Heaven’ as used here means a sphere of strong influence, power and authority.
God made Babylon experience one of the most powerful physical and military influence a nation could have on the world. Remember, in the dream that Daniel interpreted to the king Nebudchadnezzer, Babylon was the golden head of the statue (Daniel 2:37-38). That is the power being referred to here as “heaven”.
In addition, the song mentions how the dead king of Babylon will be met by other dead kings of the earth in the realm of the dead. It further speaks on how his body will not be properly buried and that the body will be fed on by worms (Isaiah 14:9-11; 19-20). These are attributes of a man, not Satan.
The word “Lucifer” is the Latin word for “Morning star”, the same word used for Lord Jesus in Revelation 22:16. It signifies immense brightness (luminosity). This relates to the Glory of Lord Jesus outshining that of any other.
Isaiah 14:12 refers to a man, the king of Babylon, not Satan. This scripture therefore cannot be used to emphasize that Satan was once an angel of light.
Query six: Didn’t Jesus Himself teach that Satan was one time an angel of light who became corrupted and was then thrown down from heaven?
Response six: From the words of Lord Jesus, the strongest impression is that Satan had always been corrupt since he came into existence. This is seen in John 8:44:
“Your father is the devil, and what you are wanting to do is what your father longs to do. He always was a murderer, and has never dealt with the truth, since the truth will have nothing to do with him. Whenever he tells a lie, he speaks in character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” (Philips).
For the King James version and other similar versions that use the expression “…He was a murderer from the beginning…”, the word “beginning” gives a view of the time of creation.
Consider that “In the beginning, God created…” (Genesis 1:1); and for those who may say that Genesis 1:1 relates to the creation of the earth only, John 1:1-2 speaks about the creation of all visible and invisible things by Lord Jesus (and the word “beginning” is used there again).
If you are still not sure whether John 1:1-2 speaks about creation of all things, both visible and invisible, then please read Colossians 1:16 and you would see that The Word (Jesus) created principalities and powers too.
The scriptures that directly mention Satan show him to be corrupted from the beginning. The other scripture portions that are used to state otherwise are quite indirect and talk about human beings very much.
Query seven: What about Ezekiel 28, doesn’t it refer to the fall of Satan?
Response seven: We are sure that this prophecy of Ezekiel 28 was written concerning the ruler of Tyre (or Tyrus, as put by the KJV) who was alive as at the time of the prophecy. Historical records speak about how wealthy and wise he was, as well as the many privileges he enjoyed.
The prophecy uses strong analogies to relate this ruler’s possession to the garden of Eden. The other character who would fit perfectly into this description is the first man made by God, Adam.
This is very fitting, since Adam was in Eden and experienced all the elements mentioned there, including innocence (no knowledge of sin), the adorable treasure stones, which God placed in that land and even spiritual influence and the privilege to relate with spiritual realities. Eden wasn’t just a physical place (this will be considered in another post).
Putting Ezekiel 28 side by side other portions of scriptures, it is most impressing that it speaks about a man (or men) and that any relation to Satan is quite absent.
The evidence points strongly to the fact that Satan has always been corrupt and that he never was an angel of light. Further still, he (Satan) is a tool in God’s hand, just the way he is.
“Let all things be tested; keep to what is good…”(1 Thessalonians 5:21)
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